Part 125

A. About that time, I cannot exactly say.

Q. Was it not a very beautiful plan that he had drawn for this Ranelagh?

A. It was.

Q. It required, from the nature of it, a considerable deal of time and labour?

A. It did certainly.

Q. Do you know whether Mr. De Berenger was very much employed in plans of that kind for the Royal Family and others?

A. He was.

Lord Ellenborough. If you see any tendency to the advantage of your client, I will not interrupt you, but at present this seems to have no bearing.

Mr. Park. I assure your Lordship, and I know I shall have credit for believing what I state, I would not at this hour of the night pursue it if it was not important, but I feel it necessary when it is stated that there has been a wonderful intimacy, from which, conspiracy is sought to be inferred.

Lord Ellenborough. I will not ask you to go into your reasons, if you only say you think it material.

Mr. Park. As far as you have seen Mr. De Berenger, for the length of time you have described, do you not believe him to be a man of honor and integrity?

A. I certainly do from every thing I have seen; I saw nothing but the most perfect gentleman during the time I lodged under the same roof.

William Carling sworn.

Examined by Mr. Adolphus.

Q. Whose servant are you?

A. The Honorable Basil Cochrane's.

Q. Are you in his service still?

A. Yes.

Q. Did Mr. Cochrane Johnstone and my Lord Cochrane visit at your master's house?

A. Yes.

Q. Have you ever seen them there in company with Captain De Berenger?

A. Yes; Baron De Berenger is the name I have given in.

Q. The gentleman who sits there now?

A. Yes.

Q. Did he come there once, or oftener, within your memory?

A. Twice.

Q. Who brought him?

A. I do not know that any body brought him in particular, he came to dine there as a visitor.