Part 23

A. It was.

Q. Did you go to Newgate by accident?

A. No, I did not, I went there accompanied by a friend to see him; it was mere by chance that I went down to Westminster Hall.

Q. Do you call that an accident in your vocabulary?

A. I had no intention of going there ten minutes before.

Q. You did not go with your friend for the purpose of looking at him?

A. I went alone, I went with a friend to Newgate.

Q. You did not go to Westminster Hall for the purpose of looking at him?

A. I did.

Q. Do you call that an accident?

A. No.

Q. Did you not follow him to Westminster Hall for the purpose of looking at him?

A. Yes.

Q. Who was the friend who went with you to Newgate?

A. Mr. Oakes of the Stock Exchange.

Q. That was the day you knew he was to come to Westminster Hall for the purpose of pleading to this indictment?

A. I did not know any such thing.

Q. Were not you so informed when you got to Newgate?

A. I was.

Q. And then you followed him to Westminster Hall, and saw him pleading to this indictment?

A. I saw him in Westminster Hall.

Q. Did you not hear the officer read the indictment to him?

A. I was not in the Court, I think I just had my head in the inside of the curtain.

Q. Did you not hear the officer read something to him, and ask him whether he was guilty or not guilty?

A. I heard the Officer read something.

Q. And ask De Berenger whether he was guilty or not?

A. I heard him ask some question, but not what it was.

Q. That person was standing up in Court, under the Officer?