Part 225

Lord Ellenborough. Did he tell you what you were to pay for it?

A. That house was not his, I pay L.60 a year for it.

Q. He did not tell you, that from L.200 to L.300 would not be excessive for a good plan?

A. Not for that plan.

Q. What did you expect to pay for a good plan?

A. That depended upon what sort of plan it might be, they might make a good plan worth that.

Q. You would not scruple paying that for a good plan?

A. I think I should for that for I had not the money to pay it.

Q. He put down the measurements in the morning?

A. Yes, he paced it over, but he told me he would come again and measure it quite correct.

Q. He put down the figures?

A. I do not know precisely whether he did or not.

Q. He had his pencil?

A. Yes, and a ten-foot rod that he carried.

Q. Did he bring a ten-foot rod to walk with?

A. I have a ten-foot rod myself, as a cabinet maker, and Mr. De Berenger paced it over.

Q. What sort of a morning was this?

A. A damp cold morning, a kind of misty rain; very cold.

Mr. Richardson. He said he would call at a subsequent time?

A. Yes, he did; here are all the designs.

Q. Those are the designs of furniture?

A. Those are the designs of furniture that I made for Miss Johnstone, or the honourable Cochrane Johnstone, for furniture in Great Cumberland Street; I believe I have some notes respecting them.

Cross-examined by Mr. Adolphus.

Q. Mr. De Berenger came to you, as a friend of Mr. Cochrane Johnstone, to give you plans for Mr. Cochrane Johnstone?

A. That was the case.

Q. He never gave you plans for any body else's furniture?

A. Never.

Q. You never employed a draftsman of his class to give you plans?