Part 208

Q. And he seemed in a hurry to get home?

A. He did.

Q. How far is it from Asylum Place to Chelsea?

A. It is two miles from the bottom of our street to Buckingham-gate, and it is a mile from that to the middle arch of Westminster-bridge; I cannot tell how far it is from that to the Asylum.

Q. You did not see where he came from?

A. No.

Q. But he was in a hurry to get home?

A. Yes.

Mr. Park. It is three miles and a half, or four miles, my Lord.

A Juryman. Was it day-light or dark, when you saw him?

A. It was between the two lights; it was not very clear at that time.

Mr. Park. I will call this woman, and will put a question to her; I had not intended it, conceiving that what he said to his wife, could not be evidence.

Lord Ellenborough. You will call her, or not, as you see fit; I do not desire to have more persons called than is necessary.

Mr. Park. I must call her, as your Lordship has asked the question, what he told her?

Mr. Brougham. If your Lordship will permit us, we will examine Hopper now; he is extremely ill, I understand.

Lord Ellenborough. If you please.

Mr. Thomas Hopper sworn.

Examined by Mr. Brougham.

Q. What are you?

A. An architect.

Q. Do you know Mr. Cochrane Johnstone's premises at Allsop's buildings?

A. I saw them two nights ago.

Q. You saw a piece of ground that he possesses there?

A. I did.

Q. Will you look at that plan, which is lying there, for the laying out of the ground? (the witness looked at it.)

A. These plans I saw at the time.

Lord Ellenborough. That is two nights ago?

A. Yes, it is.