Part 135

Q. For Lord Cochrane?

A. Yes.

Q. To pay for gains upon the stock account?

A. Not gains exactly, but upon the stock account.

Q. To whom personally did you give it?

A. To Lord Cochrane.

Cross examined by Mr. Serjeant Best.

Q. Was Mr. Butt in the office at the time?

A. Yes, I think he was.

Q. Do you recollect whether you gave it into the hands of Lord Cochrane or Mr. Butt?

A. I think into the hand of Lord Cochrane; I feel satisfied in my mind that I gave it to Lord Cochrane and not to Mr. Butt.

Q. If you gave it to Lord Cochrane, did you see Lord Cochrane hand it over to Mr. Butt?

A. No, I cannot say that I did.

Q. Have you no recollection one way or the other?

A. No.

Q. Nor is your recollection very distinct whether you gave it to one or the other?

A. I have no reason to think I gave it to Mr. Butt.

Q. Mr. Butt frequently acted for Lord Cochrane?

A. Not with me.

Lord Ellenborough. Do you believe you gave it to Lord Cochrane?

A. I do, but I am not certain whether I laid it before him upon the table, or gave it into his hand.

Lord Ellenborough. You presented it to him, and gave it into his reach, so that he might take it?

A. Yes.

A Juryman. You charged him with it in account?

A. Yes, I did.

Edward Wharmby sworn;

Examined by Mr. Gurney.

Q. Are you clerk to Jones, Loyd & Company?