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Have we constitutional authority to legislate on this subject, and is it expedient so to do? 321; by the enacting clause of our constitution it was ordained and established for the then United States, 322; its framers and those who adopted it never intended its immediate operation should extend to any people that did not then, or should not thereafter, be included in the limits of the United States, 322; they did not intend to enter into partnership of this sort, 322; Orleans was not within these limits when the constitution was established, 322; upon this principle we may form all the territories into States, then what will become of the old United States? 322; the constitution requires that Senators should have been citizens nine years, a period longer than the people of this territory have belonged to the Union, 322; it is said, several new States have been formed by Congress, 322; these were formed out of territories within the limits of the Union on the adoption of the constitution, 322; even if constitutional, it is an extremely impolitic and inexpedient measure, 323; two applications pending, neither has sufficient population, 323; it is objected to this bill that the population of the State will not be American, 323; what power have we to negotiate about the territory of any of the States? 323; objections to annexing West Florida to Orleans, 323; amendment moved to consolidate the Orleans and Mississippi Territories, 323; a stipulation in the treaty of cession, 324; to waste the territories would violate previous engagements, 324; the consent of Georgia would be necessary, 324; meaning of the constitution, 324; the right to become States was conceded to the old territories before the adoption of the constitution, 325; the article of the constitution was unnecessary unless it applied to new territory, 325; not for us to consider who shall be their Senators, 325; Mobile and Orleans should not be under the same government, 325; the trust embraced in the amendment is too extensive for a local State government, 325; other geographical limits proposed, 325; amendment disagreed to, 326; claims of the United States respecting the western limits of the Orleans Territory, 326; this bill extends jurisdiction over the province of Texas, 326; remarks relative to arranging the western boundary, 326; the principle of this bill materially affects the liberties and rights of the whole people of the United States, 327; it would justify a revolution in this country, 327; if this bill passes, the bonds of the Union are virtually dissolved, 327; called to order, 327; repeated, that its passage is virtually a dissolution of the Union, &c., 327; decision of the Speaker on the propriety of the expression demanded, 327; decision that a portion of the remarks are in order, and a portion not, 327; appeal from the decision, 327; Speaker not sustained, 327; the separation of the States resulting from a violation of the constitution, is a necessity deeply to be deprecated, 327; the bill assumes that this National government without recurrence to conventions of the people or Legislatures of the States, can admit new portions in countries out of the original limits of the United States, 328; if this authority is delegated by the constitution, it results from its general nature as from its particular provisions, 328; the preamble examined, 328; its meaning, the extent of the country at that time, Louisiana not then in the limits, 328; if any particular power exists, it is the treaty-making power, 329; this power examined, 329; this question goes to the very seat of the power and influence of the present members of the Union, 329; the term, "New States," applies to territory within the then limits of the Union, 329; evidence of history, 329; resolution passed, July 3d, 1788, is further authority, 329; its meaning, 330; the evidence should be very strong to prove the terms intended something else besides this obvious purpose, 330; its meaning can be proved, both affirmatively, with regard to new States from the existing limits, and negatively, against new States without those limits, 330; this assertion examined, 330; is it possible that such a power, if it had been intended to be given by the people, should have been left dependent upon the effect of general expressions, 331; it is not so much a question concerning the exercise of sovereignty, as it is who shall be sovereign, 331; the treaty-making power has limitations, 331; the situation of New Orleans, 332; the moral and political consequences of usurping this power, 332; what is this liberty of which so much is said? 333; no fear of analyzing the nature of this love of our Union, 333; this bill, if passed is a death-blow to the constitution, 334; the bill will neither justify a dissolution of the Union nor lead any citizen attached to it to contemplate it, 334; our authority to erect new States is proved by theory and practice, 334; the articles of confederation are evidence, 334; similarity of the constitution and the articles of confederation in many sections, 324; further debate, 324; indefinite postponement lost, 335; bill passed, 335.

Territories.--See Index, vols. 1, 2, 3.

Territory, Missouri, report relative to amending the act for the government of, 707.

THOMAS, JESSE B., Delegate from Indiana Territory, 53; moves the appointment of a committee relative to a division of the Indiana Territory, 87; makes a report relative to a division of the Indiana Territory, 96.

THOMPSON, JOHN, Representative from New York, 36, 124, 187, 315. See Index, vols. 2, 3.

THURSTON, BUCKNER, Senator from Kentucky, 3, 116, 166. See Index, vol. 3.

TIFFIN, EDWARD, Senator from Ohio, 3; reports engrossed bill on non-intercourse with Great Britain, 28. See Index, vol. 3.

Tippecanoe, Battle of, message communicating, 466.

Title of President.--See Index, vol. 1.

Torpedo Experiments.--In the House, letter from Robert Fulton, 213; the author a man of science and successful experiment, 214; letter referred, 214; report on do., 214; resolution to grant Mr. Fulton use of the Hall for a public lecture, 214; the Hall is exclusively appropriated to legislative purposes, 214; an injurious precedent, 214; hold out the idea that the House sanctioned it, 214; words "public lecture" struck out and "explaining" inserted, 215; bill making an appropriation for an experiment on the practical use of the Torpedo, or submarine explosion, 218; is this such a proposition that we can step out of the ordinary course of encouragement given to inventors? 218; is the experiment worthy to be made? 218; this resolution appropriates money for an experiment, 219; nothing new in it, 219; the invention of David Bushnell, 219; difference between the two, 219; all-important to defend our ports and harbors, 219; Mr. Fulton has little merit in originating this thing, 220; alarm occasioned to the British during the Revolutionary war, 220; verses of Hopkinson, 220; if one of these machines in a hundred should take effect, the object would be perfectly gained, 220; nothing result from it of service to the country, 220; if a fair experiment is intended, the appropriation is totally inefficient, 220; why has not the invention been patronized by the French, 221; an actual experiment should be made on an enemy's vessel, 221; experience during the war, 221; the experiment should not be made, 221; bill passed, 222.

TOULMIN, Judge, report relative to the conduct of, 533.

TRACY, URI, Representative from New York, 124, 191, 315, 424, 577. See Index, vol. 3.

Treason and Sedition, bill to define. See Index, vol. 2.

Treasury Notes, issue authorized, 421; bill to authorize the issue of, 706.

Treaty with Great Britain.--See Index, vol. 1.

TRIGG, ABRAM, Representative from Virginia, 36. See Index, vols. 2, 3.

TROUP, GEORGE M., Representative from Georgia, 36, 125, 187, 315, 425, 577; opposes immediate engrossment of the bill relative to the power of territorial governments, 39, 40; on the ordinance of 1787, 44, 46; moves to postpone the bill relative to the ordinance of 1786, 46; in favor of immediate arming of the public vessels, 98; on the petition relative to the Mississippi Territory, 141; on the Batture at New Orleans, 149; on violation of neutral rights, 189; on the British intrigues, 517, 519; on pay of the army, 583. See Index, vol. 3.

TURNER, CHARLES, jr., Representative from Massachusetts, 187, 315, 424, 577.

TURNER, JAMES, Senator from North Carolina, 3, 116, 166, 264, 403, 566.

Two-thirds vote. See Index, vol. 3.

UPHAM, JABEZ, Representative from Massachusetts, 36, 124, 187. See Index, vol. 3.

Union, dissolution of, 327.

Ursuline Nuns of New Orleans, petition of, 476.

VAN ALLEN, JAMES I., Representative from New York, 36 See Index, vols. 1, 2, 3.

VAN CORTLANDT, PHILIP, Representative from New York, 47. See Index, vols. 1, 2, 3.

VAN CORTLANDT, PIERRE, jr., Representative from New York, 424, 577.

VAN DYKE, NICHOLAS, Representative from Delaware, 141, 212, 330. See Index, vol. 3.

VAN HORNE, ARCHIBALD, Representative from Maryland, 36, 125, 187, 315. See Index, vols. 2, 3.