Mr. QUINCY.--I did not mean to argue the details of the bill on this question--I merely stated certain considerations to show that it was not proper at this time to discuss the principles contained in the bill. And I ask gentlemen, whether, from the temper which has been manifested, and the importance of the subject, it is possible to get through the bill during the present session? If gentlemen will sit still, and be as callous as they were lately, it may perhaps be carried through this session; but if it be properly discussed, it cannot. Gentlemen say we have no sensibility to constitutional questions, except on this occasion. On the subject, however, of Yazooism, I have not said a word. My remarks were general. I placed that and all other claims on the footing of the law. This bill applies to the whole of them.
The question was then taken by yeas and nays on the indefinite postponement of the bill--yeas 43, nays 68.
Mr. QUINCY moved to strike out the following part of the first section of the bill:
“Such offender or offenders shall forfeit all of his or their right, title, and claim, if any he hath, or they have, of whatsoever nature or kind the same shall or may be, to the lands aforesaid, which he or they shall have taken possession of, or settled, or caused to be occupied, taken possession of, or settled, or which he or they shall have surveyed, or attempted to survey, or caused to be surveyed, or the boundaries thereof, he or they shall have designated, by marking trees or otherwise.”
He said so far as this section went to provide against trespasses, it was unnecessary; and so far as it went to operate against persons having rights to land, it was unconstitutional. So far as respected the former, the arm of the law was sufficiently strong, and they might be removed by its ordinary process. It was not contended that this law was meant to apply against them--it would be absurd to say so, when they alleged no rights. The truth was, this was a general law, made to suit a particular case. This had been acknowledged by the gentleman from Virginia. Mr. Q. said he believed no man would contend, that were it not for that case, such a law would pass. He believed making a general law for particular cases, unusual and unconstitutional.
Mr. Q. here recapitulated the constitutional objections which he before urged.
He observed that the gentleman from South Carolina had referred to a law passed in the year 1799, which prevented any settlement within the Indian boundaries. Could any gentleman compare the case with this? In that case a treaty had been made between the United States and the Indians, one of the provisions of which prevented any citizen from going within the Indian boundary. Mr. Q. said he would use but one other argument, which was, that this law would be a mere nullity. If individuals wished to try their title, as soon as the military attempted to remove them, the courts of justice would interfere; and this would decide the question of title which gentlemen seem afraid to meet.
Mr. LYON supported the motion to strike out.
On which the question was taken by yeas and nays--yeas 35, nays 54.
Mr. QUINCY offered the following proviso to the first section:
“Provided, also, That nothing in this act shall prevent any person claiming title to any such lands, under or by virtue of an act or grant of any State, from peaceably entering thereon, for the purpose of being enabled thereby to bring to a judicial decision at law or in equity the validity of the title so claimed.”
Mr. QUINCY said he made this motion, because he considered this section no more nor less than levelled at the Judiciary of the United States; and that his vote might be recorded, he would ask for the yeas and nays.
The question was then taken by yeas and nays on the proviso, and decided in the negative--yeas 30, nays 64.
Mr. FISK said, that rather than have such a principle introduced into the laws of the United States, as was contained in this bill, he would prefer seeing all the Yazoo land sunk in the sea. He had no idea of seeing the rights to property tried at the point of the bayonet. He had often heard the Yazoo represented as a wicked business. He believed it was such; but he had ever hoped that the Judiciary would not be affected by it. This was nothing more nor less than providing by an armed force to turn men off from the land they occupy, and to deprive them of their rights, if they had any. If they had no rights, it was unnecessary to introduce such a principle into the bill; and if they had, they were to be divested of them by an armed force, without a trial by jury. He would ask if this were constitutional? He would ask gentlemen where were the feelings which they had recently displayed for the rights of the people who had sent them here? He wished gentlemen to recollect the maxim they laid down, that it was immaterial who were the persons affected, the rights were the same, and their invasion as dangerous in the person of the lowest wretch as in that of the most exalted character. Mr. F. said he was decidedly against the bill, and should vote for its rejection.
The bill was immediately read the third time.
Mr. LYON spoke against its passage.
When the question was taken on its passage by yeas and nays, and decided in the affirmative--yeas 57, nays 44.
TUESDAY, March 3.
The bill sent from the Senate, entitled “An act confirming claims to land in the district of Vincennes,” together with the amendments agreed to yesterday, were read the third time, and passed.
Mr. SAMUEL SMITH presented to the House a petition of sundry inhabitants of the State of Pennsylvania, praying an amendment to the second section of the third article of the Constitution of the United States, which extends the judicial power of the United States “to controversies between citizens of different States, between citizens of the same State claiming lands under grants of different States, and between a State or the citizens thereof and foreign States, citizens, or subjects.”--Laid on the table.
The further consideration of the bill sent from the Senate, entitled “An act to explain the act, entitled ‘An act supplementary to an act, entitled “An act to divide the territory of the United States north-west of the river Ohio into two separate Governments,”’” was postponed indefinitely.
The House resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on the bill in addition to an act, entitled “An act in addition to an act, entitled ‘An act supplementary to the act providing for a Naval Peace Establishment, and for other purposes.’” The bill was reported with an amendment thereto; which was read, and agreed to by the House.
Eodem Die, half past 6 o’clock.
A message from the Senate informed the House that the Senate have passed a bill, entitled “An act repealing the acts laying duties on salt, and continuing in force, for a further time, the first section of the act, entitled ‘An act further to protect the commerce and seamen of the United States against the Barbary Powers,’” with an amendment; to which they desire the concurrence of this House.
Ordered, That the farther consideration of the bill for the relief of Edward Weld and Samuel Bebee be postponed indefinitely.
The House proceeded to consider the amendment proposed by the Senate to the bill, entitled “An act repealing the acts laying duties on salt, and continuing in force, for a further time, the first section of the act, entitled ‘An act further to protect the commerce and seamen of the United States against the Barbary Powers;’” and the same being again twice read, was, on the question put thereupon, agreed to by the House.
An engrossed bill making compensation for extra services to the Governor, Judges, and Secretary of the Indiana Territory, was read the third time, and passed.
Resolved, That the Clerk of the House of Representatives be directed, within one month after the close of the present session of Congress, to advertise three weeks successively, in two newspapers, printed in the District of Columbia, that he is ready to receive separate proposals for supplying the House of Representatives, for the next Congress, with the necessary stationery, printing, and wood for fuel, in manner prescribed by two resolutions, passed by the House of Representatives, the first on the twenty-eighth of February, one thousand eight hundred and five, and the other on the twenty-first of April, one thousand eight hundred and six.
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